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Pinot noirs z najboljšim burgundskim izrazom terroirja

Burgundije iz leta 2010 prihajajo na police ali v nekaterih primerih zaradi poroke omejenih količin in visokih ocen zdrsnejo po maloprodajnih kanalih, ne da bi kdaj videli polico. Da, to je popolna nevihta: odličen letnik, nižji od povprečnih pridelkov in na novo ugotovljeno cenjenje bordo na nastajajočih trgih, zaradi česar je vrednost v bordoji bolj relativna kot kdaj koli prej.

Kljub temu je to neverjetno dobra letina in še danes obstajajo vina, ki presegajo svoj plačni razred, čeprav pričakujem, da bodo te resnične vrednosti kmalu na poti dodo. Burgundija seveda nikoli ni bila poceni, vendar še vedno najdete izjemne, starostno vredne primere za manj kot 40 dolarjev za steklenico, zaradi česar so v moji knjigi najvišje vrednosti. Tu je osem primerov nedavne slepe degustacije. Ali je vedno več smisla plačati več? Mislim, da ne.

Ta vina so degustirali na štirih poletih, pri čemer je točkovanje odražalo naše rezultate za vsak let.

Kliknite tukaj in poiščite najboljše burgundije 2010.

- Gregory Del Piaz, Snooth


Kako kuhati piščanca

Številni recepti na seznamu sestavin zahtevajo, da je kuhan piščanec, ne glede na to, ali je narezan ali narezan ali narezan. Čeprav je uporaba piščanca z žganjem dober način, da vsakemu obroku dodate kuhanega piščanca, če imate pri roki nekaj surovega piščanca, ga lahko preprosto skuhate in dodate v različne jedi.

Piščanca lahko celo vnaprej skuhate in ga shranite za uporabo ves teden. To & aposs je kot nalašč za dodajanje solatam, juham, quesadillam in še veliko več. Prihranite si izlet v trgovino in se v nekaj preprostih korakih naučite kuhati piščanca.


Povzetek recepta

  • 4 kratka rebra s kostmi (debela 2 palca, skupaj 2 kilograma)
  • Groba sol in sveže mleti poper
  • 2 žlički koruznega škroba
  • 3 žlice ekstra deviškega oljčnega olja
  • 8 unč belih gob na gumb, razrezanih na četrtine
  • 3 korenje, 2 drobno sesekljana in 1 narezana na 3/4-palčne kocke
  • 3 šalotka, mleta
  • 2 stebla zelene, grobo narezana
  • 2 trakova slanine, tanko narezane navzkrižno
  • 1 žlica paradižnikove paste
  • 2 vejici timijana
  • 1 posušen lovorjev list
  • 1 skodelica suhega rdečega vina, na primer burgundskega
  • 8 skodelic goveje juhe z nizko vsebnostjo natrija v trgovinah
  • 2 skodelici vode
  • Herb jajčni rezanci, za serviranje
  • Chrenov drobnjak, za serviranje

Rebra začinite z 1/2 žličke soli in nekaj popra. Dlaka s koruznim škrobom. V velikem težkem loncu (po možnosti emajliranem železu) segrejte olje na srednje močnem ognju. Svetlo rjava rebra na vseh straneh, približno 6 minut. Prestavite na krožnik.

V lonec dodajte gobe. Kuhajte, dokler ne porjavi, približno 4 minute. Prenesite na korenje narezan korenček.

V lonec dodajte šalotko, zeleno, slanino in sesekljano korenje. Kuhajte do karamelizacije, približno 6 minut. Vmešajte paradižnikovo pasto.

Rebra s sokovi iz plošč vrnite v lonec. Aditiv in lovorjev list. Dvignite toploto na visoko. Dodajte vino. Kuhajte, strgajte rjave koščke z leseno žlico, dokler se nekoliko ne zmanjša, približno 1 minuto. Dodajte zalogo in vodo. Zavremo. Zmanjšajte ogenj in kuhajte, delno pokrito, dokler se goveje meso ne zmehča, 2 do 2 1/2 ure.

Odstranite rebra. Meso ločite od kosti, zavrzite. Meso narežite na koščke velikosti ugriza, vrnite se v lonec. Dodajte rezervirano mešanico gob in korenja. Kuhajte, dokler se korenje ne zmehča. Začinimo s soljo. Juho iz zajemalk po posodah z jajčnimi rezanci iz zelišč in postrezite s hrenovim drobnjakovim kruhom na strani.


Wine Berserkers - mednarodni vinski družbeni mediji, spletna skupnost in razprava

Moj najljubši beli GC za $ je Jadot Corton Charlemagne.

Za 1er se strinjam z Bouchardom in bi dodal Clos des Mouches Blanc iz Drouhina. Belci Niellon 1er še vedno ponujajo vrednost. Tudi jaz uživam v Labet Beaune Marconnets.

Zanima me več možnosti.

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#3 Objava avtorja B. Buzzini & raquo 9. maj 2020, 19:58

Walter Scott. nekdo je to moral povedati! 18 Anne Cuvée n steklo.

Dober seznam. Tudi Louis Michel Chablis.

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#4 Objava avtorja [email protected] [email protected] & raquo 9. maj 2020, 20:06

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#5 Objava avtorja Ron Erickson & raquo 9. maj 2020, 20:16

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#6 Objava avtorja Sean S y d n e y & raquo 9. maj 2020, 20:17

Drouhinov Montagny, ki sem ga imel pred nekaj tedni, je bil popolnoma čudovit in približno 25 USD, če to ni preveč proletariat.

edit: Vidim, da so me premagali zgoraj

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#7 Objava avtorja Kris Patten & raquo 9. maj 2020, 20:44

Sean S y d n e y je napisal: ↑ 9. maj 2020, 20:17 Drouhinov Montagny, ki sem ga imel pred nekaj tedni, je bil popolnoma čudovit in približno 25 USD, če to ni preveč proletariat.

edit: Vidim, da so me premagali zgoraj

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#8 Objava avtorja Paul Seah & raquo 9. maj 2020, 22:05

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#9 Objava avtorja Ian S & raquo 9. maj 2020, 22:14

Alan Eden - Berserker "Crazy Uncle" in Master Pot Potter za vedno!

"Prisežem, nikoli v svojem življenju nisem videl toliko cvilljivih psic na enem mestu." - Steve Saxon, 30. januar 18
"Moralna superiornost je nekaterim lahko zelo okusna." - David Kantrowitz, 29.5.19

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#10 Objava avtorja dcornutt & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​02:36

"Skrbi za mnenje drugih ljudi in vedno boš njihov zapornik." - LAO TZU

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#11 Objava avtorja jason stein & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​04:29

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#12 Objava avtorja Howard Cooper & raquo 10. maj 2020, 05:06

Začnimo z Morejo:

Bernard Moreau Bourgogne Blanc (plačan 25 USD za leto 2017), Chassagne-Montrachet in St. Aubin En Remilly
Christian Moreau - premier cru Chablis
Moreau Naudet - premier cru Chablis

Bouchard Meursault Perrieres
Heitz-Lochardet Meursault En la Barre in Meursault Les Gruyaches
Domaine des Moirots - Njegove rdeče so mi bolj všeč kot bele, vendar njegove bele niso slabe
Belci iz Auberta de Villaina

V zadnjem času sem videl nekaj dobrih cen za Jadot belce. Če je premox res ozdravljen s strani DIAM -a, bi to ocenil kot odlične vrednosti.

Drouhinove beline so mi zelo všeč, vendar so se cene v zadnjih nekaj letih precej zvišale. Včasih so lahko dobre vrednosti.

"To počnem. Pijem in vem stvari." Tyrion Lannister

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#13 Objava avtorja Howard Cooper & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​05:09

"To počnem. Pijem in vem stvari." Tyrion Lannister

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#14 Objava avtorja [email protected] [email protected] & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​5:26

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#15 Objava avtorja Howard Cooper & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​5:49

Zadnje sporočilo, ki sem ga prejel za njihova vina, je bilo s Chambers Street:

Kliknite, če si želite ogledati najnovejši inventar na naši spletni strani →
Colin-Morey, Pierre-Yves 2018 Bourgogne Blanc
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"To počnem. Pijem in vem stvari." Tyrion Lannister

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#16 Objava avtorja [email protected] [email protected] & raquo 10. maj 2020, 5:55

Howard Cooper je napisal: ↑ 10. maj 2020, 05:49 Zadnje sporočilo, ki sem ga prejel za njihova vina, je bilo s ulice Chambers:

Kliknite, če si želite ogledati najnovejši inventar na naši spletni strani →
Colin-Morey, Pierre-Yves 2018 Bourgogne Blanc
Colin-Morey, Pierre-Yves 2018 Bourgogne Blanc
| 12 na zalogi | 42,99 USD
Colin-Morey, Pierre-Yves 2018 Bourgogne Aligoté
Colin-Morey, Pierre-Yves 2018 Bourgogne Aligoté
| 36 na zalogi | 32,99 USD
Colin-Morey, Pierre-Yves 2018 Saint-Aubin Le Banc
Colin-Morey, Pierre-Yves 2018 Saint-Aubin Le Banc
| 36 na zalogi | 63,99 USD
Colin-Morey, Pierre-Yves 2018 Saint-Aubin 1er Cru En Remilly
Colin-Morey, Pierre-Yves 2018 Saint-Aubin 1er Cru En Remilly
| 7 na zalogi | 89,99 USD
Colin-Morey, Pierre-Yves 2018 Saint-Aubin 1er Cru Hommage á Marguerite
Colin-Morey, Pierre-Yves 2018 Saint-Aubin 1er Cru Hommage á Marguerite
| 24 na zalogi | 79,99 USD
Colin-Morey, Pierre-Yves 2018 Saint-Aubin 1er Cru Les Champlots
Colin-Morey, Pierre-Yves 2018 Saint-Aubin 1er Cru Les Champlots
| 18 na zalogi | 79,99 USD
Colin-Morey, Pierre-Yves 2018 St Aubin 1er Cru Chatenière
Colin-Morey, Pierre-Yves 2018 St Aubin 1er Cru Chatenière
| 9 na zalogi | 89,99 USD

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#17 Objava avtorja Brian S t o t t e r & raquo 10. maj 2020, 5:56

Obvezna objava v vsaki temi na to temo

Imam par X-Novos 2018 na poti k meni. Kako je z Anne Cuvee?

CT in IG: rieslinghoarder

2021 WOTY Kandidati:
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Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#18 Objava avtorja Howard Cooper & raquo 10. maj 2020, 7:58

B. Buzzini je napisal: ↑ 9. maj 2020, 19:58 Walter Scott. nekdo je to moral povedati! 18 Anne Cuvée n steklo.

"To počnem. Pijem in vem stvari." Tyrion Lannister

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#19 Objava avtorja R. Frankel & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​8:16

Tudi meni je bil '17 PYCM BB zelo všeč. Kupil sem pol ohišja, želel sem videti, kako se starajo. Ups, spil sem jih!

Še nekaj vrednih belih Burgov bi dodal
- Moreau Nadeau - čudovit Chablis navzgor in navzdol
- Henri Prudhon - večinoma sveti Aubin in izjemno impresiven.
- Droin Chablis - tudi praska, ki lepo srbi
- Saumaize-Michelin Pouilly-Fuisse- bogatejša vina, a tudi dobro narejena.

Seveda kupujem nekaj višjih stvari - Bernard Moreau, Henri Boillot, še nekaj drugih, vendar mislim, da so to manj dobre možnosti "vrednosti". Lamy-Pillot me je na La Pauleeju leta 2019 resnično navdušil, vendar jih še nisem našel na zahodni obali po cenah, ki so mi bile všeč.

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#20 Objava avtorja Rick Allen & raquo 10. maj 2020, ob 9.30

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#21 Objava avtorja Josh Grossman & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​10.05

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#22 Objava avtorja Chris Seiber & raquo 10. maj 2020, 10:26

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#23 Objava avtorja Chris Seiber & raquo 10. maj 2020, ob 10.30

Zdi se, da so se cene PYCM od letnikov 2017 do leta 2018 zvišale za 20+%. Predstavljajte si, kaj bi vsi rekli, če bi to storil kalifornijski producent.

No, užival sem v nekaj njihovih letnikih, preden so cene ponorele. In ne morem kriviti fanta, ker je zaračunal, kaj bodo ljudje plačali zanje. Odlična so vina.

Verjetno imam približno 10 steklenic, zdaj pa preidem v način "nerad jih pijem, ker si jih ne morem privoščiti zamenjati".

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#24 Objava avtorja Yao C. & raquo 10. maj 2020, 10:36

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#25 Objavil avtor Yao C. & raquo 10. maj 2020, 10:42

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#26 Objava avtorja alan weinberg & raquo 10. maj 2020, 10:45

obstaja nekaj občasnih priložnosti, da najdete PYCM po nižjih cenah, tudi Boillot. Plačal sem 95 za 18 Moucheres. Plačal sem 85 za 17 PYCM Ancegnieres. Mislim, da so to velike vrednote, vina, ki igrajo nad njihovimi imeni. Temo sem poimenoval najboljša vrednost, ne najcenejša.

Skoraj sem uvrstil nekaj Moreauja na seznam.

Tam sem imel Michela, Buzz.

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#27 Objava avtorja Josh Grossman & raquo 10. maj 2020, 10:59

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#28 Objava avtorja ykwon & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​12.34

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#29 Objava avtorja [email protected] [email protected] & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​12:41

Chris Seiber je napisal: ↑ 10. maj 2020, 10.30 zjutraj se zdi, da so se cene PYCM zvišale za 20+% samo od letnikov 2017 do 2018. Predstavljajte si, kaj bi vsi rekli, če bi to storil kalifornijski producent.

No, užival sem v nekaj njihovih letnikih, preden so cene ponorele. In ne morem kriviti fanta, ker je zaračunal, kaj bodo ljudje plačali zanje. Odlična so vina.

Verjetno imam približno 10 steklenic, zdaj pa preidem v način "nerad jih pijem, ker si jih ne morem privoščiti zamenjati".

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#30 Objava avtorja JLee & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​12:49

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#31 Objava avtorja jason stein & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​12:51

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#32 Objava avtorja Howard Cooper & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​13.00

Chris Seiber je napisal: ↑ 10. maj 2020, 10.30 zjutraj se zdi, da so se cene PYCM zvišale za 20+% samo od letnikov 2017 do 2018. Predstavljajte si, kaj bi vsi rekli, če bi to storil kalifornijski producent.

No, užival sem v nekaj njihovih letnikih, preden so cene ponorele. In ne morem kriviti fanta, ker je zaračunal, kaj bodo ljudje plačali zanje. Odlična so vina.

Verjetno imam približno 10 steklenic, zdaj pa preidem v način "nerad jih pijem, ker si jih ne morem privoščiti zamenjati".

"To počnem. Pijem in vem stvari." Tyrion Lannister

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#33 Objava avtorja Howard Cooper & raquo 10. maj 2020, 13:02

"To počnem. Pijem in vem stvari." Tyrion Lannister

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#34 Objava avtorja JLee & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​13:06

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#35 Objavil avtor Chris Seiber & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​13.13

Chris Seiber je napisal: ↑ 10. maj 2020, 10.30 zjutraj se zdi, da so se cene PYCM zvišale za 20+% samo od letnikov 2017 do 2018. Predstavljajte si, kaj bi vsi rekli, če bi to storil kalifornijski producent.

No, užival sem v nekaj njihovih letnikih, preden so cene ponorele. In ne morem kriviti fanta, ker je zaračunal, kaj bodo ljudje plačali zanje. Odlična so vina.

Verjetno imam približno 10 steklenic, zdaj pa preidem v način "nerad jih pijem, ker si jih ne morem privoščiti zamenjati".

Če je to vse, potem ne bi imeli vsi drugi beli burgundiji enakovreden porast cen od 17 do 18 letnikov? In če se bodo tarife znižale, se bodo cene PYCM vrnile na leto ali dve?

Ponovno PYCM izdeluje odlična vina, poleg tega pa je zelo v modi pri kupcih, zato nisem presenečen ali razburjen, da se cene povečujejo. Enako se počutim, ko se to zgodi z novim svetovnim vinom. Toda vsakič, ko se vroči proizvajalec Burga ali Severne Rone ali Piemonta strmo dvigne, se moramo vsi pretvarjati, da gre zgolj zaradi nekaterih senčnih posrednikov, tarif, sivega trga ali česa drugega, ne pa zaradi redne ponudbe in povpraševanja. Ko gre za novo svetovno vino, potem gre vse za pohlep, zabijanje kurb itd. Zdi se, da gre bolj za to, da ljudje potrjujejo svojo pristranskost glede dobrih in slabih fantov, kot pa za natančno izjavo o tem, kaj se dogaja.

Mogoče se motim - zagotovo sem bil že prej. Razloži mi in odprto bom poslušal.

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#36 Objavil avtor Craig G & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​13.26

Moje najboljše vrednosti so Domaine Renaud Macons (Charnay in Solutré) iz K & ampL. Nenavadno so dobri za 20 dolarjev. V tem razponu je kup drugih belih Burgov, vendar je večina tistih, ki sem jih poskusil, razočarala.

Tudi Bize BB Perrières je res dober. Bolj kot 35 ali 40 dolarjev.

"Morate pogledati navzdol na spodnjo polico, kjer hranijo bojnega petelina." - Corey N.

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#37 Objava avtorja [email protected] [email protected] & raquo 10. maj 2020, 13:32

Chris Seiber je napisal: ↑ 10. maj 2020, 10.30 zjutraj se zdi, da so se cene PYCM zvišale za 20+% samo od letnikov 2017 do 2018. Predstavljajte si, kaj bi vsi rekli, če bi to storil kalifornijski producent.

No, užival sem v nekaj njihovih letnikih, preden so cene ponorele. In ne morem kriviti fanta, ker je zaračunal, kaj bodo ljudje plačali zanje. Odlična so vina.

Verjetno imam približno 10 steklenic, zdaj pa preidem v način "nerad jih pijem, ker si jih ne morem privoščiti zamenjati".

Če je to vse, potem ne bi imeli vsi drugi beli burgundiji enakovreden porast cen od 17 do 18 letnikov? In če se bodo tarife znižale, se bodo cene PYCM vrnile na leto ali dve nazaj?

Ponovno PYCM izdeluje odlična vina, poleg tega pa je zelo v modi pri kupcih, zato nisem presenečen ali razburjen, da se cene povečujejo. Enako se počutim, ko se to zgodi z novim svetovnim vinom. Toda vsakič, ko se vročemu proizvajalcu Burga ali Severne Rone ali Piemonta dvigne cena, se moramo vsi pretvarjati, da gre zgolj zaradi nekaterih senčnih posrednikov, tarif, sivega trga ali česa drugega, ne pa zaradi redne ponudbe in povpraševanja. Ko gre za novo svetovno vino, potem gre vse za pohlep, zabijanje kurb itd. Zdi se, da gre bolj za to, da ljudje potrjujejo svojo pristranskost glede dobrih in slabih fantov, kot pa za natančno izjavo o tem, kaj se dogaja.

Mogoče se motim - zagotovo sem bil že prej. Razloži mi in odprto bom poslušal.

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#38 Objavil avtor Rick Allen & raquo 10. maj 2020, 13:38

Re: Trenutno najboljše vrednosti bele burgundije

#39 Objava avtorja Howard Cooper & raquo 10. maj 2020 ob ​​13:42

Chris Seiber je napisal: ↑ 10. maj 2020, 10.30 zjutraj se zdi, da so se cene PYCM zvišale za 20+% samo od letnikov 2017 do 2018. Predstavljajte si, kaj bi vsi rekli, če bi to storil kalifornijski producent.

No, užival sem v nekaj njihovih letnikih, preden so cene ponorele. In ne morem kriviti fanta, ker je zaračunal, kaj bodo ljudje plačali zanje. Odlična so vina.

Verjetno imam približno 10 steklenic, zdaj pa preidem v način "nerad jih pijem, ker si jih ne morem privoščiti zamenjati".

Če je to vse, potem ne bi imeli vsi drugi beli burgundiji enakovreden porast cen od 17 do 18 letnikov? In če se bodo tarife znižale, se bodo cene PYCM vrnile na leto ali dve nazaj?

Ponovno PYCM izdeluje odlična vina, poleg tega pa je zelo v modi pri kupcih, zato nisem presenečen ali razburjen, da se cene povečujejo. Enako se počutim, ko se to zgodi z novim svetovnim vinom. Toda vsakič, ko se vroči proizvajalec Burga ali Severne Rone ali Piemonta strmo dvigne, se moramo vsi pretvarjati, da gre zgolj zaradi nekaterih senčnih posrednikov, tarif, sivega trga ali česa drugega, ne pa zaradi redne ponudbe in povpraševanja. Ko gre za novo svetovno vino, potem gre vse za pohlep, zabijanje kurb itd. Zdi se, da gre bolj za to, da ljudje potrjujejo svojo pristranskost glede dobrih in slabih fantov, kot pa za natančno izjavo o tem, kaj se dogaja.

Mogoče se motim - zagotovo sem bil že prej. Razloži mi in odprto bom poslušal.


Male burgundije od velikih pogajalcev

Kupčije v Burgundiji? Negocianti so izboljšali kakovost, rezultat pa je povečano število dobro narejenih in cenovno dostopnih vin.

Burgundija in dobra vrednost: obe sta videti kot protislovje. S svojimi lomljenimi vinogradi, ki proizvajajo majhne količine redkih in dragih vin, zagotovo v francoski regiji Chardonnay in modrem pinotu skorajda ne bo mogoče najti vin, ki ustrezajo enemu dnevnemu proračunu.

Zagotovo ni lahko najti dobrih burgundij, ki se prodajajo za manj kot 20 USD ali celo pod 25 USD za steklenico. Vsak ljubitelj vina ve, da je nakup Burgundije kot hoja po minskem polju. Je pa mogoče potovati in tudi uživati. Skrivnost je v iskanju prave kombinacije močnih imen in uglednih proizvajalcev.

Navsezadnje samo ime vina ni zagotovilo. Ker lahko kar 80 proizvajalcev prideluje vina z istim imenom iz iste dežele-slavni Clos Vougeot je najbolj znan primer-kakovost vinarstva postane enako pomembna kot dežela sama. Profil proizvajalcev Burgundije in#8217 sega od velikih, sodobnih prestopnikov do malih kmetov s kar deset hektarji trte, razpršenih po številnih različnih vinogradih. Standardi se neizogibno razlikujejo in se zelo razlikujejo.

Srce Burgundije, klasičnih vasic Côte de Nuits in Côte de Beaune, dejansko predstavlja le majhen delež vseh burgundskih vinogradov (približno 17 odstotkov). Daleč od tega osrednjega območja, znanega kot Côte d ’Or, so manj znane vasi in območja, ki lahko dajejo vina dobre vrednosti in dobre kakovosti.

Odmaknjene regije, kot sta Côte Chalonnaise in Mâconnais, so imele koristi od uspeha vrhunskih vin Côte d ’Or. Naložbe in znanje so prispeli v nekdanje rustikalne, odmaknjene poti. In čeprav so se cene dvignile, so v primerjavi z velikimi imeni ob Côte d ’Or zagotovo ostale razmeroma skromne.

Zunaj teh območij so vinogradi, ki proizvajajo dobra vina, ki spadajo pod preprosta generična imena burgundskega rumena in bourgogne blanc - rdeče in bele burgundije.

Težava v teh zunanjih imenih - res v vsej Burgundiji - je razlika v kakovosti. Čeprav obstaja prepoznaven slog vina, ki izhaja iz vsake od različnih označb, je ključno, kako se ta slog razlaga. Obstaja veliko proizvajalcev, vključno z nekaterimi znanimi imeni, ki še vedno izdelujejo vina s tradicionalnimi okusi in aromami. Anthony Hanson, britanski strokovnjak za Burgundijo, je nekoč slavno primerjal vonj rdečih vin regije z gnijočimi listi ali gnojem, in to je vonj, ki ga, ko ga enkrat registriramo, nikoli ne pozabimo. Prihaja iz umazanega vinarstva, vendar se je dolga leta mislilo, da je to pravi okus Burgundije, in še vedno je nekaj sentimentalnosti. Tudi belci so bili nekoč bolj aromatizirani z žveplom kot s sadjem.

Danes, ne glede na njihovo velikost, higienski postopki pridelave vin proizvajajo najboljša vina s poudarkom na sadju. Značaj Burgundije, ne glede na ceno, bi moral poudariti sočnost sadja in naravno kislost grozdja. Najboljši primeri prepletajo zemeljske ali mineralne note, ki izražajo regije, iz katerih izvirajo. Zaradi svojih finančnih sredstev so številni veliki pogajalci uspeli očistiti svoja dejanja in zdaj proizvajati impresivne vrste poceni vin. Vsekakor so njihova vina na tem cenovnem nivoju najbolj razširjena v ZDA.

Négocianti v Burgundiji kupujejo grozdje, mošt in vino v razsutem stanju pri številnih pridelovalcih in vinjenerjih, mnogi pa imajo tudi lastnike vinogradov. Vedno pogostejše ustne dogovore z zasebnimi pridelovalci nadomeščajo dolgoročni najemi, ki dajejo negocijantom večji nadzor nad upravljanjem vinogradov in časom žetve. S povečano pozornostjo k higieni kleti in večjim nadzorom nad celotnim procesom pridelave vina so rdeče burgundije iz kmečkega gospodarstva, prezasedenih vin zgodnjih osemdesetih let prejšnjega stoletja, v drugi polovici devetdesetih let prejšnjega stoletja v bistvu čiste, sveže in parfumirane.

Nekateri pregovorniki so ta prehod izboljšali kot drugi. V mislih imam Louisa Jadota, Josepha Drouhina, Bouchard Père et Fils, Jaffelina in predvsem Faiveleyja, katerih vina na vseh ravneh so danes med najboljšimi v Burgundiji. Nekateri so tam že dlje časa: Georges Duboeuf (ki je svojo posebnost Beaujolais razširil na belce iz južne Burgundije) in Chartron et Trébuchet (tudi strokovnjaki za bela vina). Zdi se, da so drugi, enako znani, zaostali na enem koncu spektra, medtem ko so na vrhu še vedno izdelovali zvezdna vina. Louis Latour je najpomembnejši med njimi.

Za manj kot 25 USD na steklenico se te burgundije ugodno primerjajo s številnimi modrimi pinoti in chardonnayji iz Kalifornije in Oregona, čeprav so po okusu precej drugačne. Burgundska rdeča je bolj strukturirana in taninirana kot ponudba Novega sveta, vendar so v osnovi ti tanini enaki svilnati, žametni sadni okusi, zaradi katerih je modri pinot tako zapeljivo vino. Belci, zlasti tisti, ki so fermentirani in starani v lesu, so po slogu bližje Novemu svetu, čeprav nikoli nimajo velike maslanosti in debelosti niti visoke ravni alkohola nekaterih kalifornijskih chardonnayjev.

Tu je povzetek o vinih in njihovih stilih iz nekaterih vrhunskih imen Burgundije, vključno z nekaj proizvajalci - négociants in domenami - v vsakem nazivu, katerih vina je vredno razmisliti, čeprav so nekatera domača vina nekoliko večja drago. To so vina za potrošnike, ki imajo radi okus fine burgundije, vendar si ne morejo vedno privoščiti cenovnih oznak.

Auxey-Duresses
Sadne, včasih elegantne, rdeče in piškotne beline, ki se hitro razvijejo, so značilnosti te vasi južno in zahodno od Volnaya v Côte de Beaune.
Dobri producenti: Domaine Robert Ampeau, Domaine Comte Armand, Domaine Leroy, Louis Jadot (Domaine du Duc de Magenta).

Bourgogne
Kot alternativo tukaj navedenim označbam vas, razmislite o preprostih bourgogne rouge in bourgogne blanc. Na tej ravni, z možnostjo izbire grozdja in vina iz vse Burgundije za mešanje, négocianti proizvajajo nekatera privlačna vina po še boljših cenah.
Dobri proizvajalci bourgogne rumenjakov: Bouchard Père et Fils, Joseph Drouhin, Faiveley, Jaffelin, Louis Jadot, Domaine Leroy.
Dobri proizvajalci bourgogne blanc: Bouchard Père et Fils, Jean-Marc Brocard, Joseph Drouhin, Faiveley, Louis Jadot, Domaine Leroy.

Chorey-lès-Beaune
Lahka vina iz peščene zemlje na ravnini vzhodno od Savigny-lès-Beaune. Nekaj ​​proizvajalcev izdeluje nekaj privlačnih vin.
Dobri producenti: Château de Chorey-lès-Beaune, Joseph Drouhin, Domaine Tollot-Beaut et Fils.

Fixin
Čisto na severnem koncu Côte de Nuits. Rdeči (skoraj vsa proizvodnja je rdeča) so nekoliko tanni, ko so mladi in lahko
bodi kmečka.
Dobri producenti: Domaine Bruno Clair, Louis Jadot, Domaine Mongeard-Mugneret, Domaine de la Perrière.

Givry
Dišeče, mehke rdeče in manjše količine bogatih, orehčastih beljakov iz vasi, katerih vina so nekoč veljala za priljubljena francoskega Henrija IV.
Dobri producenti: Antonin Rodet (Domaine de la Ferté), Domaine Joblot, Domaine Gérard et Laurent Parize.

Hautes-Côtes-de-Beaune
Južni podaljšek Hautes-Côtes-de-Nuits, ki proizvaja vina v podobnem lahkem in sadnem slogu, vendar po ugodnih cenah.
Dobri proizvajalci: Domaine du Château de Mandelot, Domaine Michel Serveau.

Hautes-Côtes-de-Nuits
Rdeča in bela vina prihajajo iz hribov in osamljenih dolin zahodno od Côte de Nuits. Mehka in sadna, ta vina zorijo prej od svojih bolj znanih kolegov.
Dobri producenti: Domaine Bertagna, Domaine Guy Dufouleur, Domaine Michel Gros, Dominique Guyon.

Mercurey
Močne rdeče barve izvirajo iz največjega imena Côte Chalonnaise (ki je bil včasih znan tudi kot Regija de Mercurey). Najboljši proizvajalci zmorejo ukrotiti moč, najslabši pa naj le postane neroden.
Dobri producenti: Antonin Rodet (Château de Chamirey), Bouchard Père et Fils, Chartron et Trébuchet (Clos Marcilly), Faiveley, Louis Max, Michel Juillot.

Montagny
Popolnoma belo vino, ki proizvaja nekaj najcenejših bordoških kosov. Debeli in s slogom bogati, hitro dozorijo.
Dobri proizvajalci: Bouchard Père et Fils, Cave des Vignerons de Buxy, Faiveley.

Mesečnik
Bližnji sosed Volnaya, ki proizvaja skoraj v celoti rdeča vina z nekaj istega vonja in parfuma, vendar s krajšo življenjsko dobo. Ko dozorijo, so gladki in žametni.
Dobri proizvajalci: Bouchard Père et Fils, Jaffelin, Olivier Leflaive.

Pouilly-Loché
Ubogi človek Pouilly-Fuissé z nekaj sadja in maščobe bolj znanega vina, vendar brez cenika.
Dobri proizvajalci: Cave des Vignerons de Buxy, Georges Duboeuf.

Rolly
Najsevernejša vas Côte Chalonnaise. Večinoma bela vina, cvetličnega in pikantnega značaja, z mehkim sadjem. Rdeči so čisti, sočni pinot.
Dobri producenti: Chartron et Trébuchet, Joseph Drouhin, Jaffelin, Olivier Leflaive, Vincent Girardin, Antonin Rodet (Château de Rully).

Saint-Aubin
Sveže rdeče z okusom jagode in nežno uravnotežene beline prihajajo iz te majhne vasice zahodno od Puligny-Montracheta in Meursaulta. Vina imajo nekaj značilnega za vsako od teh bolj znanih vasi.
Dobri producenti: Domaine Jean-Claude Bachelet, Domaine Roux Père et Fils, Louis Jadot, Jaffelin.

Saint-Véran
To je najjužnejša oznaka v Burgundiji, njene rdeče pa so razvrščene kot Beaujolais in so narejene iz Gamaya. Belci so mehki, sveži in sadni ter hitro dozorijo.
Dobri producenti: Georges Duboeuf, Domaine des Lalande, Mommessin, Domaine Saumaize-Michelin, J. J. Vincent et Fils (Domaine des Morats).

Santenay
Nekaj ​​najboljših vrednot v Côte de Beaune. Vina, ki so v mladosti lahko čvrsta in taninska, vendar z zorenjem razvijejo štirikotni, trden značaj. Proizvajajo se predvsem rdeče, vendar majhne količine orehastih beljakovin.
Dobri producenti: Joseph Drouhin, Vincent Girardin, Louis Jadot, Olivier Leflaive, Prosper Maufoux.

Savigny-lès-Beaune
Savigny je vas z največjim območjem modrega pinota v Côte d ’Or po Beauneu in Santenayu. Parfumirana vina so polna malin in drugega rdečega sadja s svežo lahkotnostjo. Ta vina lahko poosebljajo zapeljivost modrega pinota.
Dobri producenti: Domaine Simon Bize, Bouchard Père et Fils, Domaine Bruno Clair, Joseph Drouhin, Patriarche Père et Fils.

Viré-Clessé
Popolnoma novo ime, ki združuje dve vasi, ki sta bili prej pod okriljem Mâcon-Villages, prej pa prodani kot Mâcon-Viré in Mâcon-Clessé. Vina so dimljena, mošusna in na splošno precej sveža in lahka.
Dobri proizvajalci: Prosper Maufoux, Mommessin, Domaine Rijckaert l ’Epinet.

KAJ KUPITI, KAJ PITI, KAJ DRŽATI

1999 Beli in rdeči iz Burgundije redko dosežejo visoko kakovost v istem letniku, vendar je bilo leto 1999 tako. Številni belci iz Côte d ’Or so bogati in bogati. Kasneje nabrani belci iz Chablisa so hladnejši in sveži. Zreli pinjoli niso bili pokvarjeni zaradi septembrskega deževja in veljajo za boljše kot leta 1998 ali 1997 in so bolj podobni dolgoročnim vinom iz leta 1996. Konec prihodnjega leta bo vredno kupiti#821799.

1998 Zgodba o uspehu Chardonnaya, zlasti v Chablisu, kjer so kisline enake kot leta 1997, vendar imajo vina večjo težo. Nekaj ​​slastnih belin je bilo narejenih na Côte d ’Or, vendar so vina na splošno v Mâconnaisu manj uspešna. Med rdečimi je dež otežil žetev, a vina že kažejo večjo strukturo in tanin kot leta 1997. To bi morala biti vina za hranjenje.

1997 Neenakomeren letnik, pri katerem Pinot Noir včasih dozori pred Chardonnayjem. Na Côte d ’Or so tisti pridelovalci, ki so čakali, naredili najboljša vina. Majhna proizvodnja rdečih barv pomeni, da so cene kljub mešanim rezultatom visoke. Za belce je 󈨥 lepo leto, zlasti v Chablisu, kjer so proizvajalci izdelovali bogata vina polnega okusa z dobro kislostjo. Keep these wines over the next decade. The wines from the Mâconnais are lighter and should be drunk now.

1996 A vintage rescued by a warm September. Excellent color and promising fruit flavors make this a vintage of long-term aging potential among the reds, with some that won’t peak until 2005 or beyond. The whites have turned out somewhat lean, but should show better in a year or two.

White Wines
87 Faiveley 1997 Cuvée Georges Faiveley (Bourgogne) $17
One of the best basic white Burgundies in a long time. Nice toasty fruit, and a warm, ripe palate with lively flavors alongside some developing maturity. Good fresh finish.

87 Prosper Maufoux 1998 Domaine les Combelières $11 (Viré-Clessé) Ripe fruit, with rich acidity and citrus and green fruit- flavors. Clear, clean wine with a good structure.

86 Bouchard Père et Fils 1998 La Vignée Chardonnay $10 (Bourgogne) Plenty of green-apple fruit and a pleasing hint of butter. Quaffable, but structured like a pricier cru.

86 Georges Duboeuf 1999 Mâcon-Villages $10 Modern, upfront fresh fruit, with good citrus flavors. Balanced, lively palate, with green fruits and acidity at the end.

86 Mommessin 1998 Domaine l’Evêque (Saint-Véran) $13 Ripe, fleshy fruit, with some balancing citrus acidity and a hint of wood and toast. Still young and fresh, this is a wine that should develop well.

85 Henri de Villamont 1997 Prestige Chardonnay (Bourgogne) $13 Nice, ripe simple fruit with just a hint of wood, and good, open flavors. Well-made, attractive wine.

Red Wines
90 Faiveley 1998 Clos des Myglands (Mercurey Premier Cru) $32
A Faiveley monopole, which means the firm owns the whole vineyard. Good deep-purple color. Rich, firm tannins, with ripe, smoky fruit and concentrated ripe flavors. It’s a wine that needs time, but already shows great complexity.

88 Joseph Drouhin 1998 Savigny-lès-Beaune $29 Firm tannins along with sweet, ripe fruit. A structured wine with good aging ability. The finish is dry but there are also good strawberry flavors. Give this wine three or four years.

86 Joseph Drouhin 1998 Laforêt Pinot Noir (Bourgogne) $15 Concentrated red fruits with a fine structure of tannins and acidity. It has enough firmness to develop over two or three years, which is unusual for a wine in this class.

86 Louis Jadot 1998 Clos de Malte (Santenay) $22 Good deep color, with ripe sweet fruit. Good concentrated fruit flavors, with solid tannins and acidity. The big, chewy fruit needs time to soften.

86 Prosper Maufoux 1998 Santenay $22 Ripe fruit and firm, dry tannins. A well-structured wine that strikes a good balance between acidity and red-fruit flavors.


Find out why Anthony Bourdain’s boeuf bourguignon is one of our most popular recipes ever

We have more than 9,200 recipes in our Washington Post Recipe Finder, and we’re adding more every day. The new dishes are what tend to capture the most attention, but there are certain entries in the archives that keep trucking along, gathering a reliable stream of readers years after they were first published.

We don’t always know exactly why. Sometimes, it’s something very search-friendly. In one case, it’s a quirk of Internet indexing. In any event, Anthony Bourdain’s boeuf bourguignon is one of those entries, repeatedly breaking into our most-viewed recipes of the year. The secret sauce? I’m guessing some combination of a famous personality, a classic dish and, well, a darn good sauce, coaxed into rich, silken luxury over two-plus hours of cook time. At close to 200 ratings, with an average score of 4½ stars (out of 5), this is one of our highest- and most-rated recipes.

The recipe first appeared in the Food section in 2004 in a piece by former Post staffer Judith Weinraub about three cookbooks focused on French bistro cooking: Ina Garten’s “Barefoot in Paris,” Bourdain’s “Anthony Bourdain’s Les Halles Cookbook” and Thomas Keller’s “Bouchon.” “Garten’s book is a collection of accessible recipes for meals to serve family and friends. Bourdain’s is a thoughtful guide to classic dishes. And Keller’s is a daunting but inspirational road map to a higher culinary plane,” Weinraub wrote. She had the clever idea to examine the differences in each book’s approach through the lens of boeuf bourguignon, a classic dish featuring beef braised in red wine (i.e. burgundy) and often including onions and mushrooms.

Garten’s quicker version includes some home-cook-friendly shortcuts, while Keller’s requires more than two dozen ingredients, some prepared multiple ways. Bourdain’s falls neatly in the middle, with the shortest ingredient list, leaning more on time than excessive preparation. The emphasis is on the meat and the sauce — ideally served with some potatoes or bread to help you savor every last drop.

The brief intro at the top of the recipe is exactly the kind of summary you’d expect from Bourdain, the globetrotting and outspoken chef, TV host and author who took his own life in 2018. “This dish is much better the second day. Just cool the stew down in an ice bath, or on your countertop (the Health Department is unlikely to raid your kitchen). Pustite čez noč v hladilniku. When time, heat and serve. Goes well with a few boiled potatoes. But goes really well with a bottle of Cote de Nuit Villages Pommard.” Informative, funny and a little snarky.

I’ll add a few more tips of my own. As far as the wine, don’t be turned off by the burgundy denomination. Burgundy (in this case red) refers to wine made in the Burgundy region of France. Red burgundy is made with pinot noir grapes, so feel free to grab a bottle labeled as pinot noir that fits within your price range. Make it something you will drink — only 1 cup is used in cooking, and you’ll want to sip the rest while you enjoy the dish. Pat your meat as dry as you can before cooking to limit the amount of splattering while you sear. You’ll want to stay within reach during the 2 to 2½ hours of braising time so that you can stir and scrape occasionally to prevent scorching on the bottom of the pot.


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My favorite GC white for the $ is Jadot Corton Charlemagne.

For 1er, I agree with Bouchard and would add Clos des Mouches Blanc from Drouhin. Niellon 1er whites still offer value. I do enjoy Labet Beaune Marconnets too.

Curious to hear more options.

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#3 Post by B. Buzzini » May 9th, 2020, 7:58 pm

Walter Scott. someone had to say it! 18 Anne Cuvée n glass.

Good list. Louis Michel Chablis as well.

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#4 Post by [email protected] [email protected] » May 9th, 2020, 8:06 pm

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#5 Post by Ron Erickson » May 9th, 2020, 8:16 pm

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#6 Post by Sean S y d n e y » May 9th, 2020, 8:17 pm

Drouhin's Montagny that I had a few weeks ago was absolutely wonderful and about $25 USD, if that's not too proletariat.

edit: I see I was beaten just above

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#7 Post by Kris Patten » May 9th, 2020, 8:44 pm

Sean S y d n e y wrote: ↑ May 9th, 2020, 8:17 pm Drouhin's Montagny that I had a few weeks ago was absolutely wonderful and about $25 USD, if that's not too proletariat.

edit: I see I was beaten just above

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#8 Post by Paul Seah » May 9th, 2020, 10:05 pm

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#9 Post by Ian S » May 9th, 2020, 10:14 pm

Alan Eden - the "Crazy Uncle" Berserker and Master Pot Stirrer forever!

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Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#10 Post by dcornutt » May 10th, 2020, 2:36 am

" Care about what other people think and you will always be their prisoner." - LAO TZU

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#11 Post by jason stein » May 10th, 2020, 4:29 am

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#12 Post by Howard Cooper » May 10th, 2020, 5:06 am

Let us start with the Moreaus:

Bernard Moreau Bourgogne Blanc (paid $25 for the 2017), Chassagne-Montrachet and St. Aubin En Remilly
Christian Moreau - premier cru Chablis
Moreau Naudet - premier cru Chablis

Bouchard Meursault Perrieres
Heitz-Lochardet Meursault En la Barre and Meursault Les Gruyaches
Domaine des Moirots - I like his reds better than his whites, but his whites are not bad
Whites from Aubert de Villaine

I have seen some good prices lately on Jadot whites. If premox there really is cured by DIAM, then I would put these as excellent values.

I really like Drouhin's whites, but prices have gone up a good bit over the last couple of years. Can sometimes be good values.

"That's what I do. I drink and I know things." Tyrion Lannister

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#13 Post by Howard Cooper » May 10th, 2020, 5:09 am

"That's what I do. I drink and I know things." Tyrion Lannister

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#14 Post by [email protected] [email protected] » May 10th, 2020, 5:26 am

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#15 Post by Howard Cooper » May 10th, 2020, 5:49 am

The last email I got for their wines was from Chambers Street:

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Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#16 Post by [email protected] [email protected] » May 10th, 2020, 5:55 am

Howard Cooper wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2020, 5:49 am The last email I got for their wines was from Chambers Street:

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Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#17 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » May 10th, 2020, 5:56 am

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Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#18 Post by Howard Cooper » May 10th, 2020, 7:58 am

B. Buzzini wrote: ↑ May 9th, 2020, 7:58 pm Walter Scott. someone had to say it! 18 Anne Cuvée n glass.

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Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#19 Post by R. Frankel » May 10th, 2020, 8:16 am

I too really liked the ‘17 PYCM BB. Bought a half case, wanted to see how they aged. Oops, drank them up!

Some more value white Burgs I would add
- Moreau Nadeau - lovely Chablis up and down the range
- Henri Prudhon - mostly St. Aubin and extremely impressive.
- Droin Chablis - also scratches that itch nicely
- Saumaize-Michelin Pouilly-Fuisse - richer wines but also well made.

Sure I’m buying some higher end things - Bernard Moreau, Henri Boillot, a little bit of others but those are less good ‘value’ options I think. I was really impressed by Lamy-Pillot at the 2019 La Paulee but have yet to find them on the west coast at prices I liked.

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#20 Post by Rick Allen » May 10th, 2020, 9:30 am

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#21 Post by Josh Grossman » May 10th, 2020, 10:05 am

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#22 Post by Chris Seiber » May 10th, 2020, 10:26 am

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#23 Post by Chris Seiber » May 10th, 2020, 10:30 am

PYCM prices seem to have gone up 20+% just from the 2017 to the 2018 vintages. Imagine what we’d all say if a California producer did that.

Oh well, I got to enjoy a few vintages of them before the prices went crazy. And I can’t blame the guy for charging what people will pay for them. They’re excellent wines.

I probably have 10 bottles or so, now I transition into the “reluctant to drink them because I can’t afford to replace them” mode.

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#24 Post by Yao C » May 10th, 2020, 10:36 am

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#25 Post by Yao C » May 10th, 2020, 10:42 am

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#26 Post by alan weinberg » May 10th, 2020, 10:45 am

there are some occasional opportunities to find PYCM at lesser prices, also Boillot. I paid 95 for 18 Moucheres. I paid 85 for 17 PYCM Ancegnieres. I think those are great values, wines playing above their appellation. I titled the thread best value, not cheapest.

Almost put some of the Moreau on the list.

I had Michel on there, Buzz.

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#27 Post by Josh Grossman » May 10th, 2020, 10:59 am

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#28 Post by ykwon » May 10th, 2020, 12:34 pm

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#29 Post by [email protected] [email protected] » May 10th, 2020, 12:41 pm

Chris Seiber wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2020, 10:30 am PYCM prices seem to have gone up 20+% just from the 2017 to the 2018 vintages. Imagine what we’d all say if a California producer did that.

Oh well, I got to enjoy a few vintages of them before the prices went crazy. And I can’t blame the guy for charging what people will pay for them. They’re excellent wines.

I probably have 10 bottles or so, now I transition into the “reluctant to drink them because I can’t afford to replace them” mode.

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#30 Post by JLee » May 10th, 2020, 12:49 pm

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#31 Post by jason stein » May 10th, 2020, 12:51 pm

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#32 Post by Howard Cooper » May 10th, 2020, 1:00 pm

Chris Seiber wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2020, 10:30 am PYCM prices seem to have gone up 20+% just from the 2017 to the 2018 vintages. Imagine what we’d all say if a California producer did that.

Oh well, I got to enjoy a few vintages of them before the prices went crazy. And I can’t blame the guy for charging what people will pay for them. They’re excellent wines.

I probably have 10 bottles or so, now I transition into the “reluctant to drink them because I can’t afford to replace them” mode.

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Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#33 Post by Howard Cooper » May 10th, 2020, 1:02 pm

"That's what I do. I drink and I know things." Tyrion Lannister

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#34 Post by JLee » May 10th, 2020, 1:06 pm

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#35 Post by Chris Seiber » May 10th, 2020, 1:13 pm

Chris Seiber wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2020, 10:30 am PYCM prices seem to have gone up 20+% just from the 2017 to the 2018 vintages. Imagine what we’d all say if a California producer did that.

Oh well, I got to enjoy a few vintages of them before the prices went crazy. And I can’t blame the guy for charging what people will pay for them. They’re excellent wines.

I probably have 10 bottles or so, now I transition into the “reluctant to drink them because I can’t afford to replace them” mode.

If that is all it is, then wouldn't all other White Burgundies have an equivalent pricing spike from the 17 to 18 vintages? And if the tariffs go back down, PYCM pricing will return to a year or two ago?

Again, PYCM makes great wines, and additionally is very much in vogue with buyers, so I'm not surprised or upset that the prices are spiking up. Same way I feel when that happens with a new world wine. But every time a hot Burg or Northern Rhone or Piedmont producer has its price skyrocket, we all have to pretend that it's only because of some shadowy middlemen, tariffs, grey market, or something else at play rather than regular supply and demand. When it's a new world wine, then it's all about greed, score whores, and so forth. It feels like it's more about people confirming their biases about good guys and bad guys than it is an accurate statement about what is going on.

Maybe I'm wrong - I certainly have been before. Explain it to me and I'll listen with an open mind.

Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#36 Post by Craig G » May 10th, 2020, 1:26 pm

My current best values are the Domaine Renaud Macons (Charnay and Solutré) from K&L. They’re unusually good for $20. There are a bunch of other white Burgs in that range but most of those I’ve tried have been disappointing.

The Bize BB Perrières is really good too. It’s more like $35 or $40.

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Re: Current best value white Burgundies

#37 Post by [email protected] [email protected] » May 10th, 2020, 1:32 pm

Chris Seiber wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2020, 10:30 am PYCM prices seem to have gone up 20+% just from the 2017 to the 2018 vintages. Imagine what we’d all say if a California producer did that.

Oh well, I got to enjoy a few vintages of them before the prices went crazy. And I can’t blame the guy for charging what people will pay for them. They’re excellent wines.

I probably have 10 bottles or so, now I transition into the “reluctant to drink them because I can’t afford to replace them” mode.

If that is all it is, then wouldn't all other White Burgundies have an equivalent pricing spike from the 17 to 18 vintages? And if the tariffs go back down, PYCM pricing will return to a year or two ago?

Again, PYCM makes great wines, and additionally is very much in vogue with buyers, so I'm not surprised or upset that the prices are spiking up. Same way I feel when that happens with a new world wine. But every time a hot Burg or Northern Rhone or Piedmont producer has its price skyrocket, we all have to pretend that it's only because of some shadowy middlemen, tariffs, grey market, or something else at play rather than regular supply and demand. When it's a new world wine, then it's all about greed, score whores, and so forth. It feels like it's more about people confirming their biases about good guys and bad guys than it is an accurate statement about what is going on.

Maybe I'm wrong - I certainly have been before. Explain it to me and I'll listen with an open mind.

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#38 Post by Rick Allen » May 10th, 2020, 1:38 pm

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#39 Post by Howard Cooper » May 10th, 2020, 1:42 pm

Chris Seiber wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2020, 10:30 am PYCM prices seem to have gone up 20+% just from the 2017 to the 2018 vintages. Imagine what we’d all say if a California producer did that.

Oh well, I got to enjoy a few vintages of them before the prices went crazy. And I can’t blame the guy for charging what people will pay for them. They’re excellent wines.

I probably have 10 bottles or so, now I transition into the “reluctant to drink them because I can’t afford to replace them” mode.

If that is all it is, then wouldn't all other White Burgundies have an equivalent pricing spike from the 17 to 18 vintages? And if the tariffs go back down, PYCM pricing will return to a year or two ago?

Again, PYCM makes great wines, and additionally is very much in vogue with buyers, so I'm not surprised or upset that the prices are spiking up. Same way I feel when that happens with a new world wine. But every time a hot Burg or Northern Rhone or Piedmont producer has its price skyrocket, we all have to pretend that it's only because of some shadowy middlemen, tariffs, grey market, or something else at play rather than regular supply and demand. When it's a new world wine, then it's all about greed, score whores, and so forth. It feels like it's more about people confirming their biases about good guys and bad guys than it is an accurate statement about what is going on.

Maybe I'm wrong - I certainly have been before. Explain it to me and I'll listen with an open mind.


Steak with Burgundy Mushroom Sauce

In a large skillet, melt butter over high heat. Throw in mushrooms, garlic, and green onions and cook, stirring occasionally until mushrooms are nice and golden. Pour in wine and stir, scraping bottoms of the pan. Allow to cook for several minutes or until liquid is reduced by at least half. At the end, add 1 tablespoon butter and stir into sauce. Add parsley and stir together. Don't be afraid to splash in a little more wine if needed.

Fry a steak in a separate skillet till medium rare.

Spoon mushrooms sauce over the top.

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We&rsquoll be seeking outside help for this fundamental life disagreement, but for today, I wanted to show you how to make this quick and easy mushroom sauce for whatever steak you feel like cooking tonight. A sirloin will work, or a skirt steak&hellipor a fillet or a ribeye or anything else you might have languishing in your fridge. Whatever steak you decide to use, just know that the sauce will make it better.


Julia Child’s Beef Bourguignon

This recipe is adapted from Mastering the Art of French Cooking by Julia Child. It’s somewhat of a long recipe, but no one ever said French cooking was easy. Have a glass of wine while preparing this wonderful dish, and the results will be rewarding.

Sestavine:

  • 3 1/2 tablespoons olive oil
  • 3 pounds lean stewing beef, cut into 2-inch cubes
  • 1 čebula, narezana
  • 1 carrot, sliced
  • One 6-ounce piece of chunk bacon
  • Sol in poper
  • 2 žlici moke
  • 3 cups red wine (burgundy)
  • 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 cups brown beef stock
  • 1 žlica paradižnikove paste
  • 2 cloves mashed garlic
  • 1/2 teaspoon thyme
  • A crumbled bay leaf
  • 18 to 24 small peeled white onions (about 1″ in diameter)
  • 3 1/2 tablespoons butter
  • Herb bouquet (4 parsley sprigs, one-half bay leaf, one-quarter teaspoon thyme, tied in cheesecloth)
  • 1 pound mushrooms, fresh and quartered

Cooking Instructions:

Remove bacon rind and cut into lardons (sticks 1/4-inch thick and 1 1/2 inches long). Simmer rind and lardons for 10 minutes in 1 1/2 quarts water. Drain and dry.

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Sauté lardons in 1 tablespoon of the olive oil in a flameproof casserole over moderate heat for 2 to 3 minutes to brown lightly. Remove to a side dish with a slotted spoon.

Dry beef in paper towels it will not brown if it is damp. Heat fat in casserole until almost smoking. Add beef, a few pieces at a time, and sauté until nicely browned on all sides. Add it to the lardons.

In the same fat, brown the sliced vegetables. Pour out the excess fat.

Return the beef and bacon to the casserole and toss with 1/2 teaspoon salt and 1/4 teaspoon pepper.

Then sprinkle on the flour and toss again to coat the beef lightly. Set casserole uncovered in middle position of preheated oven for 4 minutes.

Toss the meat again and return to oven for 4 minutes (this browns the flour and coves the meat with a light crust).

Remove casserole and turn oven down to 325 degrees.

Stir in wine and 2 to 3 cups stock, just enough so that the meat is barely covered.

Add the tomato paste, garlic, herbs and bacon rind. Bring to a simmer on top of the stove.

Cover casserole and set in lower third of oven. Regulate heat so that liquid simmers very slowly for 3 to 4 hours. The meat is done when a fork pierces it easily.

While the beef is cooking, prepare the onions and mushrooms.

Heat 1 1/2 tablespoons butter with one and one-half tablespoons of the oil until bubbling in a skillet.

Add onions and sauté over moderate heat for about 10 minutes, rolling them so they will brown as evenly as possible. Be careful not to break their skins. You cannot expect them to brown uniformly.

Add 1/2 cup of the stock, salt and pepper to taste and the herb bouquet.

Cover and simmer slowly for 40 to 50 minutes until the onions are perfectly tender but hold their shape, and the liquid has evaporated. Remove herb bouquet and set onions aside.

Wipe out skillet and heat remaining oil and butter over high heat. As soon as you see butter has begun to subside, indicating it is hot enough, add mushrooms.

Toss and shake pan for 4 to 5 minutes. As soon as they have begun to brown lightly, remove from heat.

When the meat is tender, pour the contents of the casserole into a sieve set over a saucepan.

Wash out the casserole and return the beef and lardons to it. Distribute the cooked onions and mushrooms on top.

Skim fat off sauce in saucepan. Simmer sauce for a minute or 2, skimming off additional fat as it rises. You should have about 2 1/2 cups of sauce thick enough to coat a spoon lightly.

If too thin, boil it down rapidly. If too thick, mix in a few tablespoons stock. Taste carefully for seasoning.

Pour sauce over meat and vegetables. Cover and simmer 2 to 3 minutes, basting the meat and vegetables with the sauce several times.

Serve in casserole, or arrange stew on a platter surrounded with potatoes, noodles or rice, and decorated with parsley.

Please leave your experiences with this recipe in the comments section below.


Top 10 Hypnotic Liquor Drinks with Recipes and Prices

With the change in times, hypnotic liquor has become a famous drink for the celebrities. Since, its release into the market, it has become one of the most staple products in many bars. The alcoholic level in hypnotic liquor is 17% and it is distilled three times during the process.

(1) Green Bean recipe

The required items are 1 oz of orange juice and 3 oz hypnotic liquor. Serve the blend of these two and then garnish it with vegetables of your choice. This drink costs you about $26 dollars.

(2) Green machine recipe

5-6 oz mountain dew or any citrus soda and 1 oz of hypnotic liquor, Pour this mixture into a highball glass which is filled with the ice-cubes. Then fill it up with soda or mountain dew. Stir the mixture slowly and the drink will automatically turn into bright green. This bright green drink costs is $27 dollars.

(3) Hypnotic and 7 recipe

A blend of 1 splash of soda or 7 up and 2 oz hypnotic liquor, stir the ingredients thoroughly and serve it in a highball glass at an expense of $ 28 dollars.

(4) Hypno fusion recipe

A blend of 1 splash of grenadine, 5 oz sprite or soda or 1 oz hypnotic liquor, fills your highball glass along with ice cubes. Then add hypnotic liquor and sprite. At last add a splash of grenadine, stir it well and serve at $ 30 dollars.

(5) Chucktown crunk juice recipe

4 oz of hypnotic liquor and 8 oz red bull can or energy drink. Serve it in a tall glass without chilled at an expense of $30 dollars.

(6) Bloody passion #2 recipe

Thoroughly mix 2-3 oz of pineapple juice, 2 oz of hypnotic liquor and one dash of grenadine syrup. Pour the mixture into a tall glass either chilled or without chilled. Add some amount of pineapple juice and then it should be followed by splashes of grenadine. Stir it well and serve it at a cost of $ 25 dollars.

(7) H-Bomb #2 recipe

Make a blend of 3 oz of hypnotic liquor and 3 oz of Red Bull energy drink. Pour the content into a highball glass with ice cubes and half way filled with Red Bull, then fills the remaining half with hypnotic liquor and serve. This drink costs you about $26 dollars.

(8) Naughty monkey recipe

Combine 5 oz of either soda or 7 up or 1 ½ oz of hypnotic liquor and serve it in a highball glass and serve it chilled at a cost of $25 dollars.

(9) Hypnotic pussy recipe

Thoroughly mix 2 oz of hypnotic liquor and 2 oz of sour raspberry liquor and shake the ingredients thoroughly using a cocktail shaker and strain into a glass and serve it chilled. This sour raspberry liquor is available at $28 dollars.

(10) Jimmy’s Jet plane recipe

Required ingredients are ¼ oz of lime juice, 2 oz of pineapple juice, ½ melon liquor and apple liquor and 1 oz of hypnotic liquor. Thoroughly mix all the ingredients and strain it into a tall glass filled with ice. Then garnish it with an airplane shaped candy and a lemon wheel. This is a perfect candy, which comes in various colors at $ 27 dollars.

These are some of the most popular hypnotic liquor drinks in the world, which has attracted numbers of people to follow the dink trend.